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 Wednesday, November 09, 2005
More On Tagging

O)K... so Phil came back and commented on my post from yesterday....

One suggestion was to support mapping between tags. I still have issues with ontological mapping like this as I think that it remains both error prone and a time consuming PITA. But, I did some thinking while abluting this morning (the little boys room is a great cognative stimulant) and I reckon that we must be getting close to being able to draw inference mappings from real world data.

What do I mean from this. Well. Google has a whole schwag of information on various sites around the world that would, IMHO, cover pretty much every conceivable topic. One would think that they should be able to use their Googlebase to build some sort of inference engine that would give a ranked inference between potential tag terms. So, from my example yesterday, Canoeing and Kayaking would sit very close together on the inference list. Thus tag ontologies and the mappings between them could become a fuzzy concept and we could use fuzzy algebra to help us build systems around them.

I played around with this sort of autmatic inferencing in music files in my final year AI paper @ varsity. Used Self Organising Maps to cluster similar music. Google could use some sort of Neural Net to cluster key words out of their database. Then this cluster map could be used to help map between concepts in a fuzzy fashion.

The advantage of this approach is that these maps could then be represented to the user in 2D or 3D space and coupled with some funky zooming could be used to help solve the UI problem that Phil talks about.

Rambles|Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:18:27 PM UTC|Comments [6]|    
Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:58:41 PM UTC
oh yeah! Now she's getting interesting :). I love the idea of being able to reduce UI through back-end smarts (or rather, reduce fiddly annoying UI for things that the computer should be able to derive). You always hear people say - "yeah, I want it simple like Google. you know, just a textbox" - but then not really think that through. Google's interaction is simple BECAUSE of the algorythmic-grunt their pulling on the back end.

Anyhow, this is a really interesting angle Chris. An inference engine for mushy-tag overlap - the lingua franca for tagging - in fact this would seem to overlap with the area of computer based natural language-translation - only much much easier. Particularly if you're using a base corpus of data as rich and wide as Google's is.
Monday, November 14, 2005 4:03:18 AM UTC
Chris, this reminds me of an idea I had a while back to allow people to search the web in there own terms. i.e. to provide an proxy interface to a search that traps the words you use to search and then captures the results that are of interest to you, and then checks to see what other words those pages are indexed with. By doing this it should be possible to create a personal map between what you call something and what the rest of the world calls something. Thereby taking the cognitive hassle out of searching the web.
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